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The Diary of a CEO with Steven Bartlett · December 21, 2025 · 2h 10m
Jefferson Fisher: This Is A Sign You'll Divorce in 10 Years
Jefferson Fisher returns — now on his SECOND podcast in our system (Shetty + DOAC). Gaslighting, communication patterns that predict divorce, and how to have conversations that build rather than destroy relationships. Cross-podcast Canon validation.
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Fisher on gaslighting and the patterns that predict divorce within 10 years. Maps directly to Gottman's Four Horsemen.
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Same insight Fisher brought to Shetty — now confirmed on a second podcast. Arguments are about emotional needs, not content.
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✧Second podcast in our system — also on Shetty
✧Communication patterns that predict divorce connects to Gottman Four Horsemen