Decoder
Hosted by Nilay Patel
The Verge's interview podcast about big ideas and other problems. Nilay Patel talks to business leaders, policymakers, and innovators about how they make decisions in an era of technological upheaval.
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Host Profile
Sharp, informed interviewer with legal training. Pushes back on corporate talking points. Focuses on decision-making frameworks and organizational structure. 45-75 minutes.
Episodes
Melanie Perkins discusses Canva's dramatic pivot from a design platform with AI tools to an AI platform with design tools. The company is moving aggressively into enterprise, competing not just with Adobe's Creative Suite but with AI-native companies like Anthropic and Meta that are launching competing AI design platforms. The conversation explores whether Canva can position itself as the unified workspace for AI-powered creation.
Investigative journalist Ronan Farrow discusses his New Yorker feature with Andrew Marantz examining OpenAI CEO Sam Altman's trustworthiness and public statements. The piece documents patterns of inconsistency and misrepresentation in Altman's communications about OpenAI's capabilities, safety priorities, and business model. Farrow explains his reporting methodology, the significance of these findings for the AI industry, and why corporate credibility matters when companies shape technological futures.
Sony's TV partnership with TCL and the restructuring of the TV industry as hardware margins collapse and software/streaming become the primary revenue models.
OpenAI reportedly exploring advertising as a revenue model. Patel analyzes what this means for AI objectivity and whether AI-powered ads would be more or less trustworthy than search ads.
Patel and David Pierce rank Apple's 50 best products ever, debating which innovations truly changed the tech landscape versus which were incremental improvements.
Samsung's Galaxy S26 launches with a Privacy Display that limits screen visibility to the user and agentic AI features in Android that can take actions on your behalf.
Live CES interview with Razer CEO Min-Liang Tan about Project Ava, an AI companion with a physical presence as an anime hologram — and whether AI companions are the future of consumer tech.
Nilay Patel answers audience questions about his decision-making framework, revealing the 'Decoder questions' he asks every CEO guest and applying them to his own career.
Examining the gap between AI company valuations and revenue. Anthropic and OpenAI are expected to IPO in 2026, but can they justify their valuations with actual revenue?
Hayden Field profiles Anthropic's societal impacts team — a small group tasked with ensuring one of the world's most powerful AI companies does not cause irreversible harm.
YouTube is now the most-watched streaming service on TVs. Patel examines what this means for the streaming wars, content creation, and the future of video entertainment.
Stack Overflow CEO details the company's existential response to ChatGPT: pivoting from community Q&A to enterprise SaaS, banning AI-generated answers, and building AI Assist.
Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins explains how the networking giant is transforming to serve the AI era, from data center networking to AI-specific security and observability.
The story of how Obsidian's most passionate community member became its CEO, and what this reveals about community-led software companies in the AI era.
Data scientist Hannah Ritchie presents evidence that climate progress is actually happening — clean energy adoption is accelerating, emissions are peaking — but the positive story does not spread.
A media executive discusses how AI is disrupting publishing: AI-generated summaries reduce click-through, AI writing tools commoditize content, and AI search answers replace article visits.
Deep dive into the legal battles between AI companies and content creators. The New York Times v. OpenAI and similar cases will determine whether AI training on copyrighted content is fair use.
Hands-on with the Nintendo Switch 2. Patel examines how Nintendo consistently succeeds by designing for a different environment than Sony and Microsoft.
FCC Chairman Brendan Carr discusses the regulatory agenda for tech and telecom, from AI regulation to net neutrality to spectrum allocation.
The Supreme Court hears arguments on the TikTok ban. Patel analyzes the legal, technological, and geopolitical dimensions of the most significant platform regulation case in US history.
Creator Hank Green guest-hosts a conversation with Dropout CEO Sam Reich about building a subscription video platform, the creator economy's sustainability challenges, and why premium unscripted content can compete with Hollywood.
Canva CEO Melanie Perkins discusses the company's transformation from a design platform with AI tools to an AI platform with design tools. Covers enterprise strategy, pricing backlash, and competing with Adobe.
Tubi CEO Anjali Sud explains why the free, ad-supported streaming model may be more sustainable than subscription streaming. Discusses competing against Netflix and TikTok for attention.
Patel examines the controversy around Grok's ability to generate non-consensual intimate deepfakes and the broader question of platform liability for AI-generated harmful content.
Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins discusses how AI is transforming enterprise networking, the infrastructure demands of AI data centers, and Cisco's $28B acquisition of Splunk for observability.
Puck CEO Sarah Personette explains the subscription media model built around star reporters who write newsletters as part of a bundle. Discusses competing with Substack, recruiting talent, and making media sustainable.
Netflix co-CEO Greg Peters discusses the ad tier reaching 40M subscribers, AI's role in content recommendation and production, and why Netflix's gaming strategy is a long-term bet.
Sundar Pichai discusses Google's AI strategy after I/O 2024, the transition from search to AI-first products, Gemini's capabilities, and how Google balances innovation with the risk of disrupting its own search business.
Nilay Patel breaks down the legislation requiring ByteDance to sell TikTok or face a US ban. Covers the legal arguments, First Amendment implications, national security concerns, and what happens next.
Alex Heath guest-hosts a conversation with Mark Zuckerberg about Meta's AI pivot, the future of mixed reality, and Zuckerberg's personal evolution from social media CEO to hardware and AI leader.
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Ronan Farrow discusses his New Yorker investigation into Sam Altman, the challenges of reporting on AI companies, and why the AI industry needs external accountability.
Patel examines the gap between AI company valuations and actual revenue. Argues that most AI startups face a monetization cliff: impressive demos but no clear path to sustainable business models.
Razer CEO Min-Liang Tan discusses the gaming hardware market at CES 2024, the convergence of gaming and productivity hardware, and how Razer is expanding beyond its core gaming audience.